The fact that there is not only the understanding but chances, multiple chances, there is no other feeling like that on earth. Not a day goes by that doesn't make his prayer list of things to be grateful for. Now that he has this, he won't let go and would say with stubborn certainty that is a standing judgment with or without Foggy and Karen. With is preferred, not required in Murdock logic. How could they not like her is the real question in his brain.

He sits and is purposely slow to get around to eating waiting for Verity to settle. "Thank you, sweetheart."

Reading into Karen's tone, Foggy's too he's confident that everything is fine. "Ah, well, Josie's has a place close to our hearts, budget and uh proximity closeness." Matt tilts his head and lifts his shoulder to touch his cheek to Verity's hand for just a second.